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PostSubject: early underwoods HELP   Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:27 am

i am doing some research on early underwood m1 carbines. if any of you have an early one, first production run
please list your serial number, what stock markings you have(high-low),and the barrel date, also, the markings on the hand guard too(type 1,2,3) . you can "X" oout the lat 1 or 2 numbers if you wish, for those of you that do not want thaat info posted publically, you can send me a PM on here
thanks in advance to all that help me out
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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:38 am

Good luck with your reaserch Brian, I dont have one, but hopefully someone will be able to help Smile

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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:45 am

i have the same post on 10 or 15 other sites, after 2 weeks, yours was the first reply out of them all
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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:51 am

I try to provide info where I can, and encourage the information sharing, sorry I dont have an Underwood to be able to help, but keep at it, I'm sure the info is out there somewhere Smile

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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:10 am

Thanks billyvan, if you know of anyone that does have an early underwood, please have them look at my post .
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PostSubject: Early Underwoods   Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:48 am

I just picked one an M1 Carbine.... nice shape!!!
It has this on the barrel behind the front sight " Underwood 1-44" with a flaming bomb or something like one under the 1-44. No markings on the stock that I can find... serial number is 2186*** Atop the chamber is "U.S. Carbine CAL 30 MI " On the bottom of the bayonet lug is "CO" or "OC"
I'm new to M1's... so I don't know exactly what you're looking for but if this helps... good luck. I don't know exactly what I have and would appreciate any help to tell me if this is something worthwhile or just another weapon. To me it's a keeper and I'm sure I'll enjoy it for decades to come.

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PostSubject: thanks copper   Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:48 am

what you have isnt an early underwood, its what is called a second block, or series underwood. first block (early) underwoods have the serial numbers between 135000 - 1449999
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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:31 pm

What exactly does that mean? Was it made in 1944 or is that just something they stamp on them for other reasons... I don't have a clue what "second block or series" means... I'd appreciate a clarification. I did not buy it as a collectible... just something I've wanted for a long time... and finally found one. Thanks in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:56 pm

the government issued spacific serial number to the different manufacturers, they are as follows
1-5 inland.....TOOL ROOM
6-10 wnichester.......TOOL ROOM
11-999999 inland.......1ST BLOCK
1,000,000 - 1,349,999 winchester.....1ST BLOCK
1,350,000- 1,449,999 underwood........1ST BLOCK
1,450,000- 1,549,999 national postal meter.......1ST BLOCK
1,550,000- 1662,519 rockola .......1ST BLOCK
1,66,2520- 1,875,039 irwin pedersen (saginaw S'G')....1ST BLOCK
1875040-1937519 national postal meter....1ST BLOCK
1982520-2352519 standard products....1ST BLOCK
2352520-2912519 underwood.....1ST BLOCK
2912520-3212519 inland....2ND BLOCK
3212520-3250019 iwin pedersen (saginaw S'G')...2ND BLOCK
3250020-3651519 saginaw S.G.
3651520-4009999 IBM
4010000-4074999 underwood.....3RD BLOCK
4,075,000-4,075,009.....ETC
THERE ARE MORE , TOO TIRED TYPING ALL THIS IN, ALL THIS INFO CAN BE FOUND IN ONE OF THE MANY BOOKS ON CARBINES
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PostSubject: Re: early underwoods HELP   Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:56 pm

I appreciate your hard work.. surprising how much info there is on these older weapons if you know where to look. Thanks again.
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PostSubject: Serial Numbers Web Page   Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:49 am

You can go to http://www.m1collectorsclub.com/M1_Carbine.html and there is a list of manufacturers and the serial numbers they were authorized to manufacture... The barrel is certainly an underwood and 1 44 is the production completion date. If the receiver/chamber only bears the US Carbine.... 30 M1 that means it was not likely to have been re-armored or restored by a foreign government (as thousands of these were given to help local police after WWII


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I just picked one an M1 Carbine.... nice shape!!!
It has this on the barrel behind the front sight " Underwood 1-44" with a flaming bomb or something like one under the 1-44. No markings on the stock that I can find... serial number is 2186*** Atop the chamber is "U.S. Carbine CAL 30 MI " On the bottom of the bayonet lug is "CO" or "OC"
I'm new to M1's... so I don't know exactly what you're looking for but if this helps... good luck. I don't know exactly what I have and would appreciate any help to tell me if this is something worthwhile or just another weapon. To me it's a keeper and I'm sure I'll enjoy it for decades to come.

Copper116 in S.W. Lower Michigan
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