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PostSubject: My unusual marking   Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:23 am

This one is a very long and on going question.

I have M1 Carbine Saginaw SG 3356xxx ,which has a stamping on it that is out of the ordinary.

It looks like this.



I have followed a few avenues , like Z Special (a WW2 unit) and possibly this may lead to a Bavarian marking?

Does anyone have any light that they can shed on this mystery?

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PostSubject: Re: My unusual marking   Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:06 pm

I've got the same mark on my Rock'ola, would be interested in knowing what it is.
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PostSubject: Re: My unusual marking   Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:38 am

Yippee, finally another one Shocked

And it's on a different maker Question that adds to the puzzle.

Is it in the same place? and are you aware if it's had a rebuild?

As I mentioned earlier I went down the z special unit avenue, even talked to a vet of the unit, but he states they actually removed all the markings from their weapons Exclamation

Do you have any history on your one, IE can you track it's ownership?

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PostSubject: Re: My unusual marking   Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:57 pm

Jester wrote:
I've got the same mark on my Rock'ola, would be interested in knowing what it is.

Is there any chance you can get a pic of your marking to me?

I have seen another one today, it appears to be in a similar place to mine and the same size, would be keen to see what you mark looks like.

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PostSubject: Marking   Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:52 am

Hi.
I'm a newby.
I have an Inland dated 1-44 (Bavarian Rural Police)with this mark on the rear of the left wing of the T of the trigger housing. When I figure out how to post a pic I wiil do so.
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PostSubject: Re: My unusual marking   Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:57 am

Hillbilly Bob wrote:
Hi.
I'm a newby.
I have an Inland dated 1-44 (Bavarian Rural Police)with this mark on the rear of the left wing of the T of the trigger housing. When I figure out how to post a pic I will do so.
Cheers, Robbie.

Well the plot thickens, bounce Photo would be great, if you have problems with the photo posting, you can E-Mail it to me and I will post it for you.

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PostSubject: Re: My unusual marking   Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:27 pm

Here is the photo from Hillbilly Bob, looks interesting, I will have to get some more details from you about the rest of the markings on this one, serial, other markings etc, to see how it compares to mine.
I will E-mail you for some more detail, unless you feel comfortable adding it here.

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PostSubject: Strange tattoo   Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:09 am

Once I figure out how to use this site, I will become more literate.
That must be some kind of armory stamp, surely.
Mikey, what do you think?
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PostSubject: Another example of the sign of the Z   Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:32 am

IBM s/n 3820122
Barrel: IBM undated
Stock: type III, has a U and a 2nd letter that is illegible
Rear sight: adjustable
Safety: push button
Barrel Band: type IA

Stock has been heavily lacquered and has several non-GI approved repairs by use of small wood inserts. Buttplate is non-GI.

The barrel has the import mark "CAI ST A, VT", meaning Century Arms International, St. Albans, VT. Century Arms has not been in St. Albans since the early 90's. They've imported carbines into the USA from all over the planet, wherever they could find them.

Bottom of trigger housing has what looks like the letter T stamped (see pic). Bolt is a flat bolt, but, looks nickle plated.

This carbine was sold at an auction in the USA in summer 2007. Seller claimed it was a Bavarian carbine, but it has no Bavarian markings, nor does it have the 3 or 4 last digits of the serial number on various parts. I think someone told him it was a Bavarian because of the lacquered stock. I've seen a lot of Bavarians, none have had a lacquered stock like this one.













Hey Mike, does this buttplate look like the one on that black M2 stock you had?

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PostSubject: Backwards Z   Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:18 am

Here's another one, on that Underwood that sold on Trade Me a few weeks back. Alex, can you make a list of the ones we have found so far and I'll do something with the info. Mike
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PostSubject: Re: My unusual marking   Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:31 pm

I will endeavour to get this sorted for you over the Xmas break Mike.

Isn't it funny how it goes for so long without a lead, then they all start popping up.

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